冠軍之後，磨得更LEE的小李飛刀－YoungLee專訪（下）
2023-3-23 記者田靖／綜合報導
（圖＿YoungLee提供）
大嘻哈之後 持續追尋音樂的奧秘
《大嘻哈時代2》現在熱映中，其中不乏許多備受矚目的新秀，像是Gummy B、艾蜜莉AMILI 及Majin等等。與YoungLee同樣發跡於崑山嘻研社的好友也在節目上獻聲，包括與YoungLee一起參加過可可幫嘴砲學霸盃的「超酷的姊姊」C Grass ，以及之後崑山嘻研的社長—「風光少年兄」阿跨面Aquaman，還有來自友校南應嘻研，把大嘻哈時代當大戀愛時代在演的God Øne。表演經驗豐富的YoungLee對他們有什麼看法呢？
「能不能走到最後倒是其次，我希望他們能從節目中拿走他們想要的東西，像是眼球以及耳朵。像當初Multiverse被淘汰後，很多人就說他不看節目了，這是我感觸很深的地方。當節目播完之後，他們還會不會聽你的音樂？」
YoungLee在大嘻哈時代上與吳卓源Julia合作改編〈買榜〉（圖＿YoungLee提供）。
今年2月，來自台大醫學系的嘻哈歌手神經元在《大嘻哈時代2》中演唱〈台大醫學FREESTYLE〉，其中一句歌詞「有人乘了1.35還是沒我高，想要念醫學系你的大考分數得破表」遭炎上，躍上新聞版面。歌詞內容提及原住民考試加分制度，引發歧視原住民、消費原住民傷痛的爭議。饒舌團體「參劈」的成員、清華大學人類學研究所助理教授林老師撰寫〈從「阿帕契」到「1.35倍」－饒舌美學與族群意識的碰撞與共存〉回應此起風波，林老師表示：「1.35倍對我來說也絕對不會只是一句Punchline而已。如同我之前強調的，饒舌已不再純粹，也很難有純粹的饒舌歌手，大家都有著不同的身份與關係，也自然會有相應的資源與責任。 」他強調：「原住民族群意識和饒舌美學，是可以並存的。 」
「1.35事件」發生後，YoungLee很認真地去思考這件事，這樣算是歧視嗎？YoungLee表示，關於這件事，他還在思考答案的灰色地帶。
「當下聽到的時候，單純覺得這只是一個很兇的Punchline，道德層面沒有覺得涉及歧視。」YoungLee說道，詞彙的選擇是每位饒舌歌手獨一無二之處。
「Punchline的方式有很多種，不一定要提到原住民。那是因為每個饒舌歌手使用的詞彙不同。我相信他不是唯一一個這麼做，會引發關注可能是因為他的技術很厲害，加上又在大嘻哈的舞台上，所以獲得較高的關注度。」
這讓我想起蛋堡「有夠難約 S2 | Ep. 1 — 詩人、賭徒、毒販」提及的，蛋堡談到關於饒舌傳遞思想這件事情，他舉例Nas有一首歌是講在地獄殺了七個修女之類的（查了一下可能是MC Serch的Back to the Grill，參與獻聲的Nas有一句歌詞是I’m wavin’ automatic guns at nuns.）。蛋堡說：「既然人的腦袋想得到，為什麼不能講出來？在藝術的世界裡面，是要你想得到什麼就能夠呈現什麼，而不用去先以社會的觀點去設定。」
我喜歡的饒舌團體Jedi Mind Tricks當中的歌手Vinnie Paz，經常在歌詞中大量使用針對同性戀的歧視語言。2011年他們到荷蘭阿姆斯特丹巡演時，慘遭當地的性別倡議團體抗議。你說他保守嗎？在使用歧視語言的同時，Jedi Mind Tricks以批判美國政府的凶狠歌詞著稱，歌詞經常為伊斯蘭、底層勞工以及少數移民發聲。人間裡的不公不義，都是他們狙擊的目標。嘻哈音樂裡的多元與歧異，有機會讓我們擺脫「標籤化」或「非黑即白」的認知框架，引領我們用不一樣的角度理解世界。
這個發人省思的問題，值得我們在聆聽音樂的旅程中細細探究。YoungLee藉此反思台灣的嘻哈環境：「台灣的嘻哈文化正在快速發展，一些人甚至不太聽90年代嘻哈。我會把神經元這件事視為養份。台灣的嘻哈文化會因為這樣一次一次的討論，慢慢蓋出一棟大樓來。」
兄弟登山 各自努力
節目結束後不久，YoungLee離開了熟悉的台南，搬到了台中生活。
「我覺得現在的年紀需要在稍微水深火熱的氣氛裡。在台南有時候過得比較舒適，一不小心一天就這樣過去，搬來台中覺得很多東西都很剛好。」
「好客工作室的成員目前各奔南北，朝著自己的目標前進。Kev6 在台北、我和Jack在台中、書源還在台南。就像是火影忍者疾風傳第七班各自修練的過程。再度集結後，每個人都會找到心中的抱負。我們也是一樣，現在各自去拚，集合的那一天總會到來。」
目前，YoungLee正在籌備新專輯，也有拍MV的打算，甚至舉行全台巡演。我們可以期待不再懼怕什麼、徹底清醒的YoungLee，拿著磨得愈來愈Lee的小李飛刀。在這波浪又凶又急的嘻哈風潮裡，穩穩站在浪尖上。身上佈滿透亮的露水，閃耀著煥然一新的Champion鋒芒。
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